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Post by canofcoke » Tue Mar 29, 2005 11:02 pm

I can imagine how hard it is to quit. I mean, I want to drink terribly badly and I'm not addicted. And thats why I wont go there.

Now from what I know, there are two kind of addictions, physical and mental. Mentally I think you can get addicted to anything if you feel like you need it to function normally, and in that case, my comparison is relative.
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Post by Painted » Tue Mar 29, 2005 11:05 pm

Well I can see where you are coming from there....I mean I am mentally addicted to music...but I am talking this is a chemical addiction. I am saying I don't think you have ever been addicted, so until you are, if you ever are, you won't know how hard it is to get away from addiction. My dad chose drugs over his own family, that is how bad addiction is. When you haven't seen your dad in 5 years because of that, you get the hint of how strong it is.
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Post by canofcoke » Tue Mar 29, 2005 11:08 pm

But like I said, I can imagine how hard it is. I want to drnik bad enough now, and I cant imagine saying I wont drink for the rest of my life. So how would I manage as an alcoholic?
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Post by Painted » Tue Mar 29, 2005 11:12 pm

Everything changes....but maybe you are just a strong willed person to make that happen. I will never ever become addicted to anything, I have the will, I will not let anything cripple me.
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Post by canofcoke » Tue Mar 29, 2005 11:13 pm

And see that? Your taking on the same attitude as I have.
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Post by Painted » Tue Mar 29, 2005 11:14 pm

I can see from both sides. I think as long as it is handled responsibly you don't need to worry about it.
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Post by canofcoke » Tue Mar 29, 2005 11:15 pm

I'm responsible enough to handle myself.
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Post by Painted » Tue Mar 29, 2005 11:17 pm

If you get drunk every time, I don't consider that responsible. To drink and still be under driving limit is responsible. But I am going to go and I'll talk to you later.
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Post by canofcoke » Tue Mar 29, 2005 11:19 pm

Ok, I'll talk to you later. I think being drunk is fine, drinking and driving is not. I dont find anything wrong with being over .08 when at someones house.

(10 minutes later) Well, I guess I'll go to bed too. Now that painted is gone, no one seems to be talking. Go figure. I guess I'll talk to everyone tomarrow.
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Post by Painted » Wed Mar 30, 2005 7:05 am

As I've said earlier. I think responsible drinking is where you can still drive. I don't see why people feel the need to be drunk. Don't you want to remember the fun night you had without making an ass of yourself? I don't see any reason in being drunk, you throw up, you have a hangover, and I honestly don't think it makes you care free. Also as I have said earlier, I don't like drunk people, or at least people who feel they need to get drunk every time they drink.
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Post by dribbles » Wed Mar 30, 2005 7:47 am

bio wrote:It can also have a negative effect on your prostate.

There's a definite link between caffeine and an enlarged prostrate. You'll miss that when it's gone.
WTF?

so in "engrish" that means my balls will drop off in a crude figure of speech?

or shrink or something horrible?

- i'm cured.
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Post by bugfreezer » Wed Mar 30, 2005 8:32 am

Inflamed prostate glands mean you get to practice a more platonic love life. If the prostate gland is removed (e.g. surgically for cancer or enlargement)...no joy for you.

Guess I won't take up Tea in my old age...I am not much of a cola drinker and utterly despise coffee.
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Post by dribbles » Wed Mar 30, 2005 8:45 am

ahh ok. so i have a good 20+ years yet?
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Post by bugfreezer » Wed Mar 30, 2005 9:55 am

Depends on how old you are, your genetics, how much caffeine, etc.

Any more details - google it.
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Post by ironpants » Wed Mar 30, 2005 1:32 pm

canofcoke wrote:I'm responsible enough to handle myself.
I really try and stay out of these issues, mainly out of respect of those participating. But I've come to a number of conclusions in my old age (I can say that now that I've crossed 30) and I feel the necessity to share:

If you feel no remorse for your actions, you may be in the right. However remorse has a tendency of creeping up on you even when you think you're in the right at the time. There are four things that are important to me at this time, my god, honor, country and family. These were responsibilities drilled into me through the military which I had forgotten until there was a digresion. They're stated in order intientionally and recently, I've sacrificed my honor in favor of my family (as mudflap can attest.) I may never find redemption for my actions. If you can, all the best to you, but you have to judge yourself by those standards, if you don't, I fear your subconscious may well for you. Once these issues are dealt with, alcohol use/abuse is a minor distraction rather than an issue.

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"The age demanded that we sing, and cut away our tongue. The age demanded that we flow, and hammered in the bung. The age demanded that we dance, and jammed us into iron pants. And in the end the age was handed the sort of shit that it demanded."
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