Merry X-mas

Painted · Post by **Painted** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 9:14 pm

This is something my mom sent me. It is NSFW. LOL. I thought it was pretty funny. Uses a lot of profanity, but gets the point across.

Post by **miftah** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 9:32 pm

Without a link, its not getting any point across.

Painted · Post by **Painted** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 1:27 pm

So sorry. Kinda forgot, really tired. http://www.illwillpress.com/xmas.html

Post by **miftah** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 2:55 pm

Oh yeah, the supposed War on Christmas... Anyone been watching the O'Reilly Factor, or better yet, the Colbert Report lately?

No one's telling anyone not to have Christmas. The statement is simply that this nation, by its own constitutional ammendments, does not endorse a state-sanctioned religion. From the first amendment: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." Putting a nativity scene on a front lawn of a government building is endorsing religion, if not a particular religion. That makes it illegal. Which is why they get removed. It's a simple issue that gets muddied by people who want special consideration and people who are too stupid to know what happens when the government starts telling you who to worship or not to worship.

We had a cold war for several decades with the Soviets for their telling their people they can't worship. We had a pretty bloody war with Germany for their killing people who didn't believe in their god. We're at war with Muslim zealots in the Middle East RIGHT FUCKING NOW. There's a reason we keep the shit separate. Its dangerous to have the zealots carrying the firearms (or flying large aircraft in crowded metropolitan areas). I'm cherry picking from our most recent history to make my point. If you need more, I can only refer you to the last 2000 years of recorded human history.

If Christians feel so threatened let them take their issue to the Supreme Court, who make it their hobby to interperet laws from the legal standpoint of the Constitution. But they won't do that because the know as well as you or I that they're full of shit. Or rather more likely, they'll say that the Supreme Court is legislating from the bench. Didn't anyone of the Christian faith take a civics course?

Majority or not, its not what this nation was founded on. So to Bill O'Reilly, Happy Holidays. Dick.

Encap · Post by **Encap** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 3:14 pm

I recently saw Henry Rollins.

He didn't talk about this. I'm pretty sure that he'd say something to the effect of, "Rar, I'm Hank, and I'm angry."

More to the point, upon saying "Merry Christmas" or "Happy Holidays" his answer would be the same. "<sneery face>Happy Holidays? What do you mean?! THE WORLD IS ON FUCKING FIRE, AND YOU SAY HAPPY HOLIDAYS?"

Which kinda mirrors my sentiment... This... this is the big argument we're having right now? Like, Hank said, the world is on fucking fire, and you're really ready to get offended if someone says happy holidays?

Do you fucking even need water to gobble down that zoloft any more? Are you that medicated that you'd even worry about the phrases of bullshit platitudes?

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays are just things that signify that you're done talking to another english speaking human. People don't MEAN it when they're talking. I was at the post office today. The Postal Workers were saying "Merry Christmas" (IN A GOVERNMENT INSTITUTION OMGWTFBBQ!!!). Do you know what it means there?

It means "Next."

Do you think the people in the post office think for even a moment about the other person who is walking away. Really hoping in their heart that the person is going to HAVE a nice Christmas. Perhaps with their family... Maybe a nice turkey, or a ham...

Nope for even a fraction of a second.

It means "End of message".

It's there because otherwise it's akward.

Post by **miftah** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 3:21 pm

Some people don't know how to pick their battles. I don't take the expression of a government worker to be statement of government endorsement. If I did, I would have taken our President to court a long time ago.

As for Hank, well, he came through Lawrence recently too. I suspect there will soon be a new spoken word album "Talking From the Box: You kids get off my lawn!"

Encap · Post by **Encap** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 3:32 pm

True enough... I'm at a really weird place, where suddenly all of the entertainers out there are either younger than me, or at the extreme, the same age.

But yea... hang is getting older. It's not so much spoken word any more as ... it's like stand up comedy.

I enjoy seeing him though.

Rocketdork · Post by **Rocketdork** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 6:11 pm

You don't think for one moment that the christians would be deeply offended if the schools started singing songs to celebrate Kwanza? or Hanika (how do you spell that anyway?), or how about a ramadan celebration at the appropiate time?

The US is about tolerance of ALL religions, not just tolerance of chrisitanity, get over it.

People forget that freedom of speech doesn't relieve you from the consequences of speaking. Say something that offends and you *could* get your ass beat up.

Don't forget the origin of christmas. It was the Catholics *creating* a holiday that matched the pagan celebration of the winter solstice. If the pagans could celebrate at the times of year they were used to celebrating, they would be easier to convert. The records show, without a doubt, that Christ wasn't born near the day celebrated as his birthday...

I've got better things to do than be offended by somebody wishing me a happy holidays, or merry christmas. I should be out spending money right now...